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01 November 2008

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Barry Weber

There is no negativity shown by Jesus toward Thomas about his doubting, other than a blessing for those who will not.

Unexamined faith is fragile. Why? Who? How?- those are questions that were breathed into us by God. They are part of the Imagio Dei that allows us to move through time. Even faith that is shaken by outside events- and whose hasn't been?- even that faith settles into a much more solid, realistic, and livable faith. Untested, faith is a collection of words. Tested, from within or without, is becomes a vital reality.

David

I understand where you are coming from, and I agree that there shouldn't be an effort to shake people loose from the faith that holds them together. But, similarly, for some, holding on to faith during disorienting times is just as unhelpful, because the reassurances, for some, rather than being reassuring sound like platitudes.

I can only speak from personal experience (I am not a pastor), but it has been the times of darkest doubt that have drawn me into deeper relationship with God because it shook me from complacency. I think God probably deals with each in a specific manner. For me, doubt was a corrective to a corrosive Christian faith.

David

And, speaking as a lay person, I long for the day when a pastor is honest enough to say, "I don't know," and share their humanity of doubts. It does me know good to hear that, "This is God's will" and that "All things work together for the Good of those that love God." It does me tremendous good, though, to be met where I am at with honesty.

I think a certain kind of doubt can be corrosive. But doubt can also be extremely constructive. I would challenge all to look at this issue with more complexity.

Marvin

I've got no problem with sharing doubts, just like I've got no problem with confessing sins. And "I don't know" is a perfectly acceptable answer to a question, especially from a pastor. It's an answer I've given (on more than one occasion, I'm sure!), and it's one I've received as well.

Perhaps I've been blessed with more favorable circumstances than most, but I've never been in a religious climate where asking questions was frowned upon or where authorities were afraid to answer with "I don't know."

I'm not all that worried about a militant fundamentalism that stifles intellectual curiosity. The fundamentalists were driven out of mainline churches in the '20s, and I expect that Tuesday's election will expose them as a spent force politically.

But even if some sort of brute force dogmatism were a big problem in my denomination, blessing doubt is not the solution to that problem. Perhaps we define our terms differently, and please see the post above for more about that, but I think that a mature faith looks like something rather different than the quivering mass of equivocations and Rogerian Um-hmming that's so in style among those who are still battling the fundamentalists.

David

I started writing a response, but it got a little long, so I put it up on my blog. I'm not sure if we have different definitions of doubt, but I am pretty sure we have very different experiences of it.

I admire your gutsy decisions, but some people have more difficulty keeping their eyes on Jesus because they can't seem him, because they have been blinded, perhaps on purpose, perhaps on the Damascus road.

For me, doubt doesn't lead to quivering equivocations, but liberative, forceful living because it shakes religion out of the realm of belief and into action.

For me, I think most in the religious world, conservative or liberal, fear doubt, rather than seek to understand how God uses it constructively.

Anyway, I appreciate the perspective, though. It is good to temper my thoughts, to realize that doubt can be overdone and that doubt is unproductive and harmful to some and at certain times.

Thanks

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